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xiaotsu · Mar 26, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45

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Originally Posted by mafia cyborg

after reading this my iq dropped of at least 30 points.
what sort of argument in favour of spamming is that?
i wouldnt even mind havin coca cola signs and averts all over lion arch.....but what does that have to do with preventing ppl to meet, communicate and intercact thorugh the only medium available.....LOCAL CHAT.
"use whisper" i just whisper at random someone?
"change district" if theres ppl theres a trade spammer....if theres no ppl thers not much chance of a chit chat is there.
"join a guild" yeh just the first guild that gets spammed and play with a few ppl u just joined to get out of spam land?

trade spam in LOCAL CHAT is an abvious problem .....it may not bother u.....but it obviously bothers an awful lot of ppl. if u fail to see this u have no common sense.

Your IQ dropped by reading his valid argument? Right, so if yours dropped 30 points from that, then mine must have gone down to 0 from reading your post.

Deal with it like the rest of us, hopefully GW2 will solve this problem. Just turn off local chat, or stay out of the low districts. The lower the district number, the more people likely to be spamming. D1 in all major towns is pretty much going to be 100% spam, trying to communicate in those areas is just not viable.

therangereminem · Mar 26, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52

ok i love pople that moonabout this you act like its only a problem in one city la the biggest one is factions people spam there worse then anywhere if you dont like it turn off your local chat and chat in the selling chat like i do and must others do if they wont listen and start selling in right channel and in the party search then beat them by using the one window thy dont use. my issue is why spam when you can put it in oncein party search and be done with it but its fine ... with me pople spamming is not going to make me quit guildwars at all, its like saying the crowd is shotting to much so now i wont play football ohh come.......... another thing your 9 out 10 thing is bull where did you come up with it and how di dyou go ask every guild there is or just 3 lol

scrinner · Mar 26, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

"do u realize how many ppl bought Nightfall and then quit on reaching kamadan? (where most nubie quests are!)."
No please do enlighten me. Though i guess you do have a point about all the spam, But right now we need either a central island that supports the search feature (Find the thread in sadelac... Basically a market where the search engine could come useful) or an auction house or both.

EDIT: @Xiaosu, i believe he was refffering to the brutal murder of the english language when the op decided that proper grammer and sentences weren't worthwhile.

*Alexiel* · Mar 26, 2007, 08:17 PM // 20:17

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Originally Posted by XvArchonvX

Meh...

Seriously, why do some people think that people trading in local chat is some horrible thing that is ruining the game? It's annoying, yes, but beyond that I think there are better things the devs could be working on.

Yeah I don't understand why people get so fired up about it.. I'm not a fan by any means but its just inevitable that you'll get people selling stuff in the main cities.

I mean...some people were selling some stuff in kamadan district 3 or something the other day in local chat, and then there was this guy stood there saying 'STFU STOP SPAMMING' which was ironic as he was contributing to it by repeatedly shouting that over and over again.. ¬_¬'

*Sigh* Just see what GWEN brings, but either way I wouldn't expect any changes on this until GW2, and I personally don't really care.

inscribed · Mar 26, 2007, 09:18 PM // 21:18

I really don't mind the trade spam either. Its nice to see a lot of other people feel the same way. Sure, its pretty messy and isn't the ideal way to go about trading, but its the best the player has at the moment. The Coca Cola ad in Times Square was an excellent example.

mafia cyborg · Mar 26, 2007, 09:55 PM // 21:55

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Originally Posted by inscribed

I really don't mind the trade spam either. Its nice to see a lot of other people feel the same way. Sure, its pretty messy and isn't the ideal way to go about trading, but its the best the player has at the moment. The Coca Cola ad in Times Square was an excellent example.

i smell a spammer.
and how can that be a pertinent example?
if the coca cola ads were placed on the walls of kamadan city(like they are placed on skycrapersor else) i really wouldnt care....that wouldnt bother me at all.
but in gw this spam "advertisment" is interrupting communication.
if cocacola interrupted our communications while we were speakin to people in a streeet you would be surely complaining!(thats whats happenin in gw)
like your talkin to your friends and someone jumps in and starts shouting BUY COCA COLA....in real life i would punch him in the face!

Vilaptca · Mar 26, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14

This happens in every game...if you've ever played any other game, then you should be used to it by now, there isn't much avoiding it.

Even WoW with its Auction House gets trade spam in the local channels.

Does-it-Matter · Mar 26, 2007, 11:03 PM // 23:03

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Originally Posted by mafia cyborg

i smell a spammer.
and how can that be a pertinent example?
if the coca cola ads were placed on the walls of kamadan city(like they are placed on skycrapersor else) i really wouldnt care....that wouldnt bother me at all.
but in gw this spam "advertisment" is interrupting communication.
if cocacola interrupted our communications while we were speakin to people in a streeet you would be surely complaining!(thats whats happenin in gw)
like your talkin to your friends and someone jumps in and starts shouting BUY COCA COLA....in real life i would punch him in the face!

See here is one of the things I run into so much on this forum. People don't understand what an analogy is, or a comparison.

When he talks about advertisments in real life being akin to spam in the chat channels he means this...

If you drive down major streets (Times Square, the Strip in Las Vegas, anywhere in Tokyo, etc.) you will see huge, bright, flashy signs that turn night into day and often enough, distract you while driving.

This is SIMILAR (in theme, no literally...) to going into a major outpost/city and seeing nothing but trade spam. It distracts you, it fills up the screen and generally you don't care for it.

Thus, it is a perfect analogy.

"A is to B as C is to D."

A does not need to be similar to C or D, in the same way as B does not need to be similar to C or D, so long as the similar between A and B is the same as C and D.

Does that clear things up?

floppinghog · Mar 26, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31

well local chat really is for local talking, whether that be what you want to sell or buy or ask...

now, trading channel... that SHOULD have been literally, a trade only channel for at least the specific outpost's districts as a whole, but they didn't do that, nor would it probably be readable in the current setup. as well as, even when your filtering out chat lines, you still receive it, and it still takes up room on your chat log regardless of the filtering.

so over all, it should have been handled differently, but its not as bad as you apparently see it. not only is 9 out of 10 gw players quiting on nightfall wrong and misleading, its plain arrogance to the fact of how many ppl ARE on nightfall, and spamming your chat log... lol

mafia cyborg · Mar 26, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36

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Originally Posted by Does-it-Matter

See here is one of the things I run into so much on this forum. People don't understand what an analogy is, or a comparison.

When he talks about advertisments in real life being akin to spam in the chat channels he means this...

If you drive down major streets (Times Square, the Strip in Las Vegas, anywhere in Tokyo, etc.) you will see huge, bright, flashy signs that turn night into day and often enough, distract you while driving.

This is SIMILAR (in theme, no literally...) to going into a major outpost/city and seeing nothing but trade spam. It distracts you, it fills up the screen and generally you don't care for it.hon

Thus, it is a perfect analogy.

"A is to B as C is to D."

A does not need to be similar to C or D, in the same way as B does not need to be similar to C or D, so long as the similar between A and B is the same as C and D.

Does that clear things up?

u're comparin apples and oranges .
an ad on the wall in time suqare compares to an ad on the wall in kamadan.
kamadan could have a massive yellow arch with a big mac sign for what i care....that woud be a similar scenario...and to be honest i could happily live with that.
here we're talkin about spam cuttin your communication off.....in real life i yet have to experience it !

Does-it-Matter · Mar 26, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55

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Originally Posted by mafia cyborg

u're comparin apples and oranges .
an ad on the wall in time suqare compares to an ad on the wall in kamadan.
kamadan could have a massive yellow arch with a big mac sign for what i care....that woud be a similar scenario...and to be honest i could happily live with that.
here we're talkin about spam cuttin your communication off.....in real life i yet have to experience it !

Do me a favor. Look through my entire post, one more time (or for the first time, apparently...). Tell me ONE place (just one!) where I said I was talking about In-Game Billboard-styled advertisements. Just one.

No one BUT YOU is talking about in game billboard-styled advertisements. We're talking about in game trade spam (aka all that text you see scrolling) and comparing that to

Please, stop distorting the truth to prove your point.

It is possible to talk about bright, flashy lights in the real world and text in game AT THE SAME TIME and still refer to the same thing.

Please, tell me this is clearer.

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Back on topic...

I would hope they implement a method to reduce the all-chat spam, and trade spam in general. But, if they don't, I will survive. I've done it this far, I'll continue to doing so.

The only districts I am somewhat unable to keep up to pace with non-trade comments are D1 of Hub Cities (Lion's Arch, Kamadan, etc.) and to a lesser degree Droknar's Forge and the Henge of Denravi. (I'm kidding about that last one!

)

I don't spam, and I get my point across. I'm not a speed-reader and I'm able to keep up with the scroll (non-D1 hub cities, that is.)

It's never going to be a perfect situation. Hell, I'm fairly sure that even if GW2 gets an Auction House, a Search feature and everything we could hope for, there will STILL be all-chat trade spam, because we're so ingrained with it by now.

*Alexiel* · Mar 27, 2007, 12:29 AM // 00:29

^ Agreed. No matter what future changes they make I honestly doubt trade spam will ever go away, and as much as its complained about I think most people will just learn to deal with it and play the game =/

Esprit · Mar 27, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14

There will always be trade spam in Local chat. There will always people who want to be up in your face about selling their wares.

If you don't need a quest, use the tried and true method of turning the channel off.

**cosyfiep** · Mar 27, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23

they arent going to fix trade spam.....
I have never had a problem finding a group even with the spam going....if there is really an offensive spammer there is the ignore function.
and has been mentioned avoid la, kamadan, kaneng dist 1---go to a higher number dist.....or go to a different city. there are tons of places where people hang out (try kodash bazaar people spend hours chatting there all the time....and there are places in the southern shiverpeaks that people gather to chat---grotto....).
Lots of people have found guilds and have had lots of pugs.....there are ways to ignore trade spam. You need to be more persistant.

Exoudeous · Mar 27, 2007, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by gene terrodon

How about Anet implements a filter that includes the names, abbreviations and any other variant of each and every item in the game - from weapons to materials to quest items.
Any mention of numbers or gold is filtered, as well as any phrase containing w,s,b,t.
I bet that will make you happy , eh

except that would make it impossible for people to talk about items....

HawkofStorms · Mar 27, 2007, 01:28 AM // 01:28

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Originally Posted by mafia cyborg

Lookin at guild statistics 9 out of 10 new players who bought nightfall quit within a week!

56% of all statistics online are made up.

Edit: to the post above me Sarcasm for the win!

Seriously, people on online forums don't understand sarcasm, logic, analogies, or any other form of rational arguement. Most are just cinvinced they are right and yell at people and call them names to try to change other people's minds.

Steps Ascending · Mar 27, 2007, 02:13 AM // 02:13

This is the most funny kind of thread:
A person (i'll call him the "madman") desesperatly thinks he's right but is alone in the middle of a great circle of normal people.
Whenever someone talk to him to explain he's mad (which means everyone talking on the tread), he yell at him. In the end he's just lying on the floor, exhausted(sp?) because he had to yell at 100 people.

Sad

Shyft the Pyro · Mar 27, 2007, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Those here who still think ANet's stance is to do nothing about ALL chat spam should try typing "WTB X" into the chat line. If you haven't tried selling something that way for a while, you're in for a nice surprise: your text will automatically appear as if you typed it into Trade! Sure, there's no fix for all the "\/\/TB" and "w_t_b" (yet), but here's actual proof that ANet has done something to address the problem directly.

Where is your statistics now?

Griff Mon · Mar 27, 2007, 02:58 AM // 02:58

Isn't the trade chat kind of limited to the 1st couple of districts of major settlements? Most places have very little of that going on. Sure, Lion's Arch, Droknars, Ascalon, and the major cities in Nightfall and Factions is about it.

That's why I go to those places most of the time anyway!

JoeKnowMo · Mar 27, 2007, 05:46 AM // 05:46

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

It's better to go to the higher number districts to meet people.
In LA, Kamadan, KC I usually choose to go to dis 3-5 to chat with people.
I've had lots of fun moments chatting with people and I've learned that dis 1-3, depending on the outposts, are where you'd go to buy/sell.

Wow. How did you figure this out? You must be a genius.

My guild and I quit because of trade spam. It makes the game unplayable and even affected our ability to kill monsters when we were in an instanced zone.

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Originally Posted by mafia cyborg

after reading this my iq dropped of at least 30 points.

It's probably best not to post after your iq drops 30 points.

Then again, it seems like that's a requirement for posters these days.